Mishima article on how not to play mishima like a mishima.

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

you should write mishima article in tz

wake those fuckers up

they still stuck in god tier mishima world

Sean says:

er

ok

anyway

There is something to every mishima user

mediocre mishima

that happens to be the same

they play tekken like reading from a book

say

From the mind of a

mediocre mishimoob

this is what they are thinking

after EWGF, I have 3 options. A B and C

and everytime they do a ewgf

this 3 options

always come out

so

what i feel is

it is very limited

for a player

to limit himself to options

i don't think this game has options

unless someone do a frame advantage move on you

then you have options

when you are on pressure

you don't have options

you have the choice of using over 50 movew

in your movelist

the most common one i see is

after ewgf

ff3

hellsweep

or

another ewgf

if for once

mishima players

actually do something different

maybe it can help their gameplay

and there's also this very funny thing

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

mishima players too stuck on the mishima mindset

Sean says:

at the wall

when mishima players trap you

they will do one ewgf

followed by another ewgf

lol

if they actually use a more creative mindset

you could ewgf into hellsweep straightaway to throw them off the Mishima mindset

or ewgf into a simple db4 or d4

every little thing counts

If I know

that you're gonna d4 me after every single ewgf

i am going to duck

sooner or later

and if i know

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

then if the mishima player doesnt change

Sean says:

you have 3 options after ewgf

i am going to SSL

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

he is pretty stupid

Sean says:

and snuff out your hellsweep and ff3

leaving you with the last option

which is another ewgf

and i know that i can duck

or just block

see

what i mean

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

this thing sounds like the stuff i was talking to anthony about

anyway i know what you are talking about

Sean says:

mishima players always have a mindset of 'This is the way mishima works'

wrong

mishima and zafina are no different

they are both characters in tekken

but

they have different moves

it doesn't make them different

they are just sprites

with different attacks

and ways to make them work

kazuya can be played crazily

thats for sure

if people actually try to do more off-scale stuff

with mishimas

it might work

open space ewgf into db4

open space ewgf into uf3

lame stuff

are not necessarily

lame stuff

they create reactions

and depending on your opponent reactions

their gameplay will change

to accomodate the stuff you're doing

grabs to

too

since mishima users

often complain

about kazuya having no viable low

why not grab

if you're feeling sucky

and feel like the next hellsweep

has a 65% chance of being random ducked

or psychic blocked

why not grab

you're putting yourself at the same risk

of getting duck-launched

but at higher damage

and reward

Play to win

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

yeah

Tare ftw

i can't quit zafina when such a awesome person like tare exists

he fuck guailan

a trait i don't dare to learn

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

you want to win?

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

ya

i want win

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

you one to win then must be guailan

bo bian

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

his style is damn fuck

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

since you got talent in cheesing

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

can kill using wall combo

dun want

let him go

then ff grab

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

how do i make it high quality

whats the 16:9 tv icon below

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

no idea

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

max range 1+2 immediately duck ws2

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

what max range

no use de

that one is

1

1+2 then duck ws2

no max range

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

kazuya max range df2 can be measured by a blocked 11

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

?

what u mean

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

means after a 11 on block

a df2 will be max range

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

zafina 1+2

the 1+2 ws2 trick

is not max range thing

cuz can be punished anywhere

the setup is

because 1+2 got followup

1+2 4

so if they wait for 4

then try punish

i ws2

you should learn from the kaz

very good

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

his one very japanese style

very fighting game

probably good for kazuya

koreans have no idea how to play kazuya

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

korean play wait and defense mah

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

which is really why kazuya is the top 5 characters used in japan

and not in korea

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

but korea still trumps japan

but SBO japan win

always

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

maybe because sbo means more to the japanese

but recent sbos korea come out with shitty teams

japanese playstyle is basically

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

fuck

ya lor

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

make yourself be in the advantage of attacking

if opponent is in advantage, use movement to gain back momentum

korea is just movement until someone's hand itchy

and then whiff punish

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

lol

i play korean style

i want to be japanese style

tare style is basically

throw rubbish out

to make shit happen

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

tare is weird

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

ya

weird

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

i think he throws out moves randomly

and then from there

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

he anyhow also win

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

see how everything goes

and plays along

you should randomly throw moves out also

dont just depend on your df12

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

i already formulate new style already

just that i never got chance to test

we should always do stuff like wall bobble combos

in casuals

cuz casuals are matches where we can test things

i don't want to play casuals like my life is on the line

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

what is bobble

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

like

at wall

like wall splat

then their body falling

you do moves float them back

sometimes we too kiasu

just bound

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

oh rewall

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

or

like after bound at wall

then carry to another wall

i always see JDCR try this

kazuya only benefit from 100

percent life

he pitbull in 100 percent life is 10x scarier than 120

cuz its about mindset

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

ya true

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

so

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

just land that ewgf or ff3 and the opponent can say goodbye

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

kaz in SG and korea

is defensive style

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

sucks

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

cuz kaz damage output is

small

and people can random without heavy risk

anyway our country punishing sucks

if the mishimas can punish very accurately

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

cant think like that

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

then maybe people will fear

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

if we think the people we play all got shitty punishment

you will use more punishable moves

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

it depends on ppl

if he dunno punish

spam

tare play like that

dunno gimmicks or safety

spam

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

true true

as long as dont become as a habit

can already

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

you must play like that if want win

you play this kind of lanjiao pattern

people see liao

will cautious for that pattern

then you play proper

will catch them

tare power is his playstyle very irritating and looks stupid

he will do lame moves and moves that cheese you

but actually is a setup

anyway

for those who can't punish 1+2

with a proper -14 punisher

then use it more

your 1+2

at wall

use more

df2 also

you ff3

if opponent sure hit

just hit 112

no need scared de

take advantage of their ignorance

make them feel your character smelly

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

ya must

those cannot duck kaz b14

must use like fuck

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

alot of ppl say zafina smelly

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

b24

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

because they fall into psychological trap liao

SG people no brains one

cannot deal with= smelly

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

ya

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

even someone like raven yoshi zaf

can be smelly

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

and they dont try to deal with it also

no brains to think of how to deal with it

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

your df12 also

if no duck

just use

but i will duck

and ss your df1f2

anyway

just do stuff to win

don't die trying to look proper

die like you're a fucking bitch who can't let go of the joystick

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

true true

i should whore those cheebye moves like fuck

fuck man

why i tell people to be cheap to win

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

come play zafina

learn to be cb

MARCUS AND HIS SUDDEN OBSESSION WITH SUNNY! "I saw a shooting star when I went for a night jog. " says:

but i'm not being cheap at all

sean-x-@hotmail.com says:

exploit gimmicks

cuz u think you proper

look very nice

i see japan playstyle

the moves ugly

but the victory very nice

proper is what sia

restraint ownself only

just play a style without restrictions

let everything flow

Fuck you LEO!!!

Sean says:

like dreamboat one

that one is godly

his one is

when using mishima

he will use EWGF

as pressure tool

not many can use EWGF as pressure

you know

he can EWGF you

till you dun dare hit back

cuz he will make you scared

ewgf then ff2

he will repeat till you mindfucked

and till your many options reduced to nothing

almost nothing

then you forced to hold back

because it seems like the best way

to deal with the situation

cuz hold b= nothing happen

then you don't want crouch also cuz ff2

or weird shit

df12 blah

can't ss

he dash ewgf fuck fast

then track

this godly +5 move

so many mindfuck factors

he sure knows how to use

he build his game on that one move alone

sure

opponent can do their options

but they have to risk

and then when they lose the risk

they eat damage

noone will risk a lot

he use only good moves

df1

ewgf

his kazuya also

do you realise

he always reduces options before doing mixup

like he won't do ff3 and hellsweep

straightaway when using kaz

he will first

do shitloads of dash electrics

and hellsweeps

cuz he want make sure you don't ss or do funny shit

then after that

you think he getting predictable

then the ff3

hellsweep come in

then at times he will do ewgf to make sure

that's what makes him so distinct

he don't give you chance to explore your options

he will just force it upon you to guess

and it's all in his vaor

favor

Insights on cheesing.

Sean says:

*This player cannot handle cheese* is bullshit

honestly

huge bullshit

doing 5 lows in a row

you can call that cheese

but

what's the best option

if i dun do that low

you're not ducking anyway

if he call that cheese

then seriously

its not

people do a lot of lows in a row

you can block what

like honestly la

he claims he can adapt well

if i play in a way that wants to annoy him

and make him pissed off

it's his fault

that he can't follow

anyway it's not my fault that I play gimmick characters

i enjoy the character

if you think you can adapt

and you're a good player

cheese is nothing to you la

fuck

you eat hopkick alot of times doesn't mean the player cheesing you what

you so vulnerable

WD go in

then even if i really want cheese you

you know i going to do this move over and over

you don't want block

plain stupid

*I can't handle cheese* is an excuse to hide one inability to defend against various playstyles

you never hear me say I can't handle cheese before

not because I cheese people so I know the mentality

is really because of instinct

can see one

damn sad la

we don't hear dreamboat say 'I CAN'T HANDLE CHEESE'

cuz he's a good player

he can never be cheesed

cuz he can sense it coming a mile away

and launch you for trying to do so

so for people who can't handle cheese

just learn to block

and read situations better

if you know that person has a tendecy to cheese

then avoid creating an opening for him to exploit

Lars is really turning bitchy now.

Before, Lars itself was already a very strong character because of the insanely good moves which Namco gave him, but still somewhat easy to handle. But ever since Holeman came out with that super cheesy playstyle, Lars, it his full essence, has became super bitchy to play.

But before we go in-depth about the bitchy style, lets go through some of the things to take note for lars.

Things to punish:

-The unholy hail mary move of Lars which for some reason scrubs spam, and people eat, is -21 on block. So punish well.

-Ws1 is -12 on block

-ff2 is -13 on block

-ff1+2 is -11 on block with push back

-213 a high mid mid is -12 on block

-1+2 is -10 on block, while canceling the 2nd hit would still render the first hit to be -10 on block

-f1+2 is -12 on block

-f1+4 is -18 on block

-f24 is -12 on block

-b1+2 is -11 on block

-ff43 is -30/-17 respectively

-ff3+4 is -16

-db23 is -12

-fb21 is -12/-16 respectively

-FC df1+2 is a low low, 2nd hit can be parried and its -12 on block

-SE 1 is -10 on block

-SE 2 is -17 on block

-SE 3 is -14 on block

-DE 1+2 is -10 on block

Things to SS:

Well, nothing really because most of his moves has some tracking to both ways. Eg f1+2, ff43, ff1+2, db21, 21. Basically all of his most used moves.

Things to duck:

-F24, duck 2nd hit.

-d31, duck 2nd hit.

-14, duck 2nd hit.

-db13, continue to duck after blocking the db1

-b43, duck 2nd hit.

-DE12, both highs.

Things to take note:

If you realize that the opponent has somehow adapted to the holeman style of playing, you should take note of the moves which are -5 and below that can give lars enough time to ss effectively and whiff punish f1+2.

Things like 12, df1, d2, DE1, ff43, 214, ff1+2, d1/d4, ws2, ws4 can give the opponent enough time to ss your moves.

However, you can always try to bait for the f1+2 after the ss. For an example, using a single jab to make the opponent realize that you are button trigger happy after whatever he does, so he will ssf1+2. But at the same time, you can jab and hold back, and block his f1+2, and then punish it.

Or, you can always use a fast tracking move. But if the opponent realizes that, they can continue their attack because their pokes will probably win your tracking move in speed.

If you are playing with a scrub, please just defend because they are uf3 trigger happy. uf3 crushes highs, lows and some mids if you haven't realised it yet. So even if they are like on -9, uf3 can still crush you and rape your butt.

Generally, I think lars has awesomely good mids, but shitty lows, so all you really have to do is just to hold back, turtle abit, space, ss if you think is needed, and sooner or later, they will have the urge to use ff43 and db4, then you can just block and punish. Not recommended if you aren't fast enough to react to them though.

Character ss guide when fighting them.

Anna: SSR her generally, SSL her FC mixup.

note: SSR after uf13

Kazuya: SSR

note: dewgf tracks both ways

Devil Jin: SSR

note: Do remember to block if you do manage to ss the 1st hit of hellsweep, as the 2nd hit tracks ssl. dewgf tracks both ways.

Heihachi: SSR

note: dewgf tracks both ways.

Paul: SSR.

note: His irritating df2 can be SSR, which is pretty good. If managed to SSR a uf3, please block because the 2nd hit will track you.

Lili: Overall, SSL her.

note: Hopkick tracks you if you SSR while her d3 tracks you when you SSL.

King: SSR

Miguel: SSR when they whore df1, SSR when they dont.

note: Do remember that his db1 and db4, as well as some of his SAV lows tracks SSL. i15 mids can stuff out SAV df2.

Dragunov: SSR.

note: Pretty much every of his qcf options can be ssred. d2 is -13 on block and tracks.

Zafina: SSL/SSR.

note: SSR scarecrow. Don't ss mantis. SSR tarantula or jump over or d4 when they miss a move.

Marduk: SSR.

note: Jump back when they go into VTS stance. Do take note that his b4 and d4 tracks SSR

Jin: generally SSR.

Yoshi: SWR kills him

Bruce: SSL snuffs out cd3 and cd2. SSR removes b2 option.

Xiaoyu: SWL pretty much makes life harder for her.

Bryan: ?

note: SSL b1 and 121.

Bob: ?

note:

Julia: SSL?

note: SSR FC options and prepare long ranged whiff punisher.

Jack: SSL beats ff1 and FCdb1